Reincarnation part 2

It comes down to what you were brought up believing. There are several religions that believe in reincarnation. There are over 2500 different gods and goddesses know to man.

If you believe in one of them and not the others you are an atheist to the other gods. Which god do you pray to for enlightenment?

Is it the Muslim god, the Jewish god, the Christian god, one of the Greek gods, one of the Hindu gods, one of the Celtic gods, one of the Egyptian gods?

There are so many, if your god is real and all the others are imaginary, how do you know? Did you do research on the others to make sure? Did you pray to the others to see if you could get an answer? Other religions that pray to their gods all affirm they have received answers to their prayers.

If there is only one true god then the prayers of the other religions would go unanswered. I want to believe there is a god out there, and sometimes I think there is because I grew up believing in it. If I had been born under different circumstances the god I grew up with would be someone else.

Reincarnation or Resurrection

It seems the Jews weren't in agreement on this as well. I may be wrong but it seems the Sadducees leaned toward reincarnation.

Hell doesn't exist in the Jewish religion. Why does Christianity have a Hell? Was hell supposed to be a bedtime story to keep people in line? Even Mormons have a different perception of hell than standard Christians.

I kinda like the thought of reincarnation. There are two movies I've seen that use it as a theory. What Dreams May Come, and Defending Your Life.

I've also wondered if heaven was going to be whatever you imagined it to be before you got there. For Muslims, 20+ virgins as a reward. For some Christians a halo and wings. (Heaven tailored to what you expect.)

I see reincarnation as a journey to better yourself, if you screw up you get another chance. Resurrection is a one-time deal. You have to be perfect before you are resurrected in order to make it to heaven. I don't see the fairness and justice, knowing that we are imperfect and expected to accomplish something which is unattainable.

Degrees of Glory

Why do we do "work" for the dead when the majority of them won't make it to the Celestial Kingdom? Even a good portion of "faithful" Mormons wont attain the highest degree of glory.

Why does our 80 to 100 years of mortal existence hold so much weight for eternity? God sent us here knowing we were going to fail. I don't see the justice in that. I wonder if God told us before we got here if we were going to fail or "make it".

What about Hitler? Was he predestined to murder thousands of people? Is it really his fault or is he following a "script"? I can almost see God saying to Hitler, "When you go down to earth you will be responsible for slaughtering the Jews." I can see Hitler weeping at what he was going to do.

Could the holocaust have been avoided by God? He could have had Hitler die at a young age and never commit any atrocities. Could it be that if he lived anywhere else, would he [Hitler] have had the same outcome? Would he have been a better or worse person? Guess what, Hitler still goes to heaven.

If this life is a test, it is like taking a test without any directions or even knowing what the subject of the test is. I image you have a scan-tron card but no test booklet. You are allowed to ask your neighbor for the answers which may be wrong or right. However, the neighbor on the right thinks it is a math test, and the neighbor on the left thinks it is an English test. Neither have solid proof on why they believe what kind of test it is.

Wifery of JS

There is conflicting information available about how many wives Joseph Smith Jr had. Some say as many as 48 while he was alive. But from what I read Joseph openly spoke against polygamy. Emma his first wife claimed Joseph never had additional wives. Also it appears that Joseph was married to about 12 other women who were married to other men simultaneously.

I hate to say it, but it seems a bit off. Church historians have confirmed he taught that polygamy was a true concept but denied ever condoning the practice. But yet he had polyandrous and polygamist wives. Some as young as 14 years old all the way up to women in their 50s.

Some of these marriages appear to be non-sexual because some of his [Joseph's] wives would stay with their current husband. But there is reasonable proof that the other marriages were of a sexual nature. I read a mob in Ohio wanted to castrate Joseph because he had sexual relations with a young girl.

The Church really puts Joseph Smith on a pedestal as a prophet. But it is hard for me to believe such things when it looks like his sexual desires are insatiable. I know I am going to offend every person who reads this. But these are genuine concerns of mine.

I was blindly following the guidelines of the church. This is one of the reasons why I had to discontinue any active part within the church.

Another thing I have a hard time with is God coming down and having "sex" with his daughter, Mary, to create Jesus Christ. My wife Deb thinks that Mary and God were "married" in order to go about it the "right" way. If that were true that would be another polyandrous marriage. What happens to Joseph? If I had a choice between a supreme being and a mortal man, I'm going with the supreme being. A sure ticket into heaven. My guess is Mary would do the same.

As I was going to St. Ives....

Well, I've been curious about Orson Hyde. I've done some research and found out Orson had eight wives back in the day. (Please correct me Pappy if I'm wrong, since I'm sure you are a wealth of knowledge with regards to our family.)

I know polygamy was part of the Hyde clan for many years. How does that work on genealogy records? I bet it is a nightmare. I don't even know what relation I have to Orson. If I remember right, his brother was our great, great, great, ... (I don't know how many) grandfather.

I don't think he was sealed to all his wives and I think he shared a wife with Joseph Smith. What a train wreck of confusion. How does all that work out in terms of doing work for the dead? Was his "work" considered done or did sealings get done afterwards?

Marinda Nancy Johnson Hyde Smith? Marriage to Orson Hyde in September 1834 and then married to Joseph Smith in April 1839. Then got divorced from Orson in 1870. I am so confused. I didn't even know polyandrous was even a word.

I know Dad should be able to correct any of the things I posted here. The Internet isn't a completely reliable source.

I Googled Dad -- Holy Crap!!

You are not going to believe this. I know how I'm voting.

http://www.tsgnet.com/pres.php?id=370743&altf=Es41Qbvm1O4&altl=Izef

Orson Hyde and the 24th of October

I never knew this but this is kind of a wierd correlation. Orson Hyde did the dedicatory prayer for the return of the Jews on October 24th, 1841.

Three years earlier on the same day he had signed an affidavit with Thomas B. Marsh which describes the intentions of the Mormons was world domination. The Battle of Crooked River takes place the next day. Then the extermination order by Gov. Boggs goes into effect on the 27th of October.

I wonder if Orson did that on purpose to redeem himself from leaving the church just a few days earlier on the 19th. It is one thing to leave the church and it is another to persecute the church. So on the 3rd anniversary of signing his affidavit, he blesses Jerusalem.

The above photo is Orson Hyde Memorial Park in Jerusalem.

I also found a 500 page biography available at Amazon.com

http://www.amazon.com/Orson-Hyde-Olive-Branch-Israel/dp/1888106719/ref=sr_11_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1224786015&sr=11-1

What a downer.

There is a reason why I chose this video. My Deb would say something that was negative and then I would do the trumpet sound, "Wha-Wha". Everyone would start laughing.

Warning!!

Chances are you wont like this video if you are over 40 years old. I won't be offended if you dont watch it. You will probably be offended if you do watch it.





Long ago
Just like the hearse you die to get in again
We are so far from you

Burning on just like a match you strike to incinerate
The lives of everyone you know
And what's the worst you take (worst you take)
From every heart you break (heart you break)
And like the blade you stain (blade you stain)
Well I've been holding on tonight

[Chorus]
What's the worst thing I could say?
Things are better if I stay
So long and goodnight
So long and goodnight

Came a time
When every star fall brought you to tears again
We are the very hurt you sold
And what's the worst you take (worst you take)
From every heart you break (heart you break)
And like the blade you stain (blade you stain)
Well I've been holding on tonight

[Chorus]
What's the worst thing I could say?
Things are better if I stay
So long and goodnight
So long and goodnight
Well if you carry on this way
Things are better if I stay
So long and goodnight
So long and goodnight

Can you hear me?
Are you near me?
Can we pretend to leave and then
We'll meet again
When both our cars collide?

[Chorus]
What's the worst thing I could say?
Things are better if I stay
So long and goodnight
So long and goodnight
Well if you carry on this way
Things are better if I stay
So long and goodnight
So long and goodnight

What Film Is This?

And why is my lunch now on the family room floor?

VP Debate

Curious George

You will never believe how this ends.

Name that Action-Adventure Movie

Guess the movie

You know me. I'm the same as you. It's two in the morning and I don't know nobody.

MOTD - Movie Of The Day - MOTD

Man's reach exceeds his imagination!

Eman Taht Eivom !!

Even their robots are insolent.

Name that mooooovie!!

What we have here is a failure to communicate.

Name that movie!!

Anyone remember this?